an immovable demand for passionate action...

"it has been a secret wish to be in this situation-- having almost no money"

Yes... nice one... I sooo hear you. .

I also see what you mean about behaviours ... I too have felt that hmmnn... annoyance with American and European arrogance and abrasiveness... the way it always seems so drastic, and I have often felt melted and impressed by the images of "asian or indigenous hospitality".... the sort of benign feeling.... I also have always admired cultures who still seem to embody a "connection to the earth" in a "natural way" as opposed to our technological worship, and i think maybe there are some capacities to be shared.

But I still feel this immovable fact staring me in the face which says that the true ordering of all this, the process by which true sharing would take place requires an inner revolution that is total... you see? Not from one THING to another THING, but revoution within THAT WHICH IS. It's kind of simple...easy to see. There really can't be this separate entity that thinks it has the power to choose its way through life and "have opinions", likes and dislikes... can there? I can't be sitting back from you with a bunch of theories that "I believe" and "a way of life that I lead that i believe is right" and call that sharing... the sitting back is the essence of not sharing. (even if "I plunge in" there still is separation because it's "me plunging in"). We can't have this separate entity staying on the superficial level, making changes to our superficial conduct, and calling that order. I think that is clear.

So when I talked about "Being universal love", i think we have to go really really slowly, right? Cause EVERYONE talks like that. I feel like I'm saying something very different... (and i think you are trying to communicate around this too, but i want to see if we can get a little clearer) I am not suggesting that there is a some thing that WE are not now, that WE must get to. We both see, i think, how the seeker with its seeking prevents seeing THAT WHICH IS. In fact, any effort at all is still a product of a mind that is separate, and therefore conflictual (not that one can drift). We also see that "wanting THAT WHICH IS to be different" is the same unfortunate process, because there is a "wanter" - which is the past. However, at the same time, all this doesn't mean that there isn't an immovable demand for order, for passionate action, it just means that it can't have it's roots in the past... can't be based in the past. Can we just see the truth of this?

You're right... in a sense, there is no rush... no point in "rushing," but not because "we have time," but because that is full of desire and fear - that would have it's roots in the past... there IS, however, an immovable demand for an immediate, spontaneous inner revolution... awareness in which there is no personality... not "me, I've got to figure it out."...not an awareness that you could describe, with lights and flashes and emotion (the so--called mystical experience ), not "something for YOU to do", not a revolution because it would be "right or respectable", but just see: the present simply will not accept the past... you can just see the sanity of that. There can be no order in life unless it takes place. This isn't something that "YOU have to get to." Can we just inquire into this a bit? see this? We're just pointing here, just touching, enquiring... seeing if we can see the truth of what we're talking about... so I haven't given you anything to do, or propegated any theories, or suggested any regimes, or assumed any judgements.

Phew... I would say that in seeing this, if we are seeing this, the mind is in a crisis in which it cannot make a single move from a psychologically separate place. There would still be a demand for "personal" arrangements on the most superficial of levels - eating - clothing etc. , but doesn't the crisis remain? I would call such a crisis, "being universal love."

(there might be a temptation to say "but I don't see this." May I suggest that you doubt and question that voice - you know? Just don't say that. Not because there isn't some more we could talk about, and not that you should pretend, but because that voice is just more conclusion... that voice isn't interested in looking... not seeking, just looking.....)


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raven